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Conversations with King Jesus
Judges and Kings
If King Jesus was here today, He might look more like this—wearing suits or dressing as the culture. In the old days, King Jesus walked the earth in the culture of a Jewish man. Wearing a dress suit or no suit, He will still exude great power. And in this day and age, the same King Jesus can hear us when we pray. Amen.
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The Focus: Understanding the Kings of Old in relation to their service to Yahweh
This manual focuses on a few of the kings of old from Scripture. Yahweh shows His nature—parts of it—so there can be a better understanding of how He thinks. In some notes, we compare Kingdom order against the times in the current era.
People think that the Old Testament has a different God than the New Testament. But is it possible that both parts of the Bible speak about Yahweh, the God of the Christians? No meetings with Yahweh can be proven. But what can be stated with the sharing of these notes? How will they benefit others? What if Yahweh wants to present Himself in a way that makes engagement with Him easier?
Looking at how Yahweh dealt with the first group of kings will shape how we deal with Yahweh in prayer. Can we transparently pray to a God we have an unhealthy fear of? Was Yahweh hateful to demand such strenuous observations in days of old, or should Yahweh be able to change His will by giving His servants new orders to speak? These are some of the questions we will note, worded in different observations, to take in a more well-rounded viewing of our powerful God.
Take a journey with these few who are taking on this training. There is no glory given to these human training ways. But we will leave our idea that Yahweh doesn’t speak today in another work. Today, we will hear from Yahweh, for His will is to declare His way of Kingdom order on Earth.
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1 Kings 1
David, Adonijah, and Abishag
January 25, 2022
1 Kings 1:39 NLT:
There Zadok the priest took the flask of olive oil from the sacred tent and anointed Solomon with the oil. Then they sounded the ram’s horn and all the people shouted, “Long live King Solomon!”
You notice in verse 39 how a person called into leadership is required to have a “seal of approval” by getting an anointing before taking on an office. Zadok, the priest, anointed Solomon. This does not mean that Solomon became a little Christ (anointed one). This way of anointing is to give a showing of a covenant agreement between the newly anointed and Yahweh. What the priest or prophet does is initiate the natural task that gives a statement, showing what took way in the spirit realm.
Today, churches will impart or anoint a calling, purpose, or mantle into the one walking into a new work, but there is a missing part: Yahweh’s authority.
People do not follow the ways of old. They would rather take on the task of placing others into a leadership position just based on natural relationship.
Random thoughts/Questions from Opinion Giver
Why would David not ask his son why he was preparing all of that stuff if he was going to tell him he couldn’t be king anyway.
Why does David need Abishag if he has Bathsheba?
I understand the anointing and trying to symbolize the covenant between a newly anointed and Yahweh. But I don’t understand how there is a covenant between Solomon and Yahweh if David was the one pushing for Solomon to be king.
(47) And listen to this! David’s officials told him, “We pray that your God will help Solomon to be an even greater king!” David was in his bed at the time, but he bowed (48) and prayed, “I praise you, Lord God of Israel. You have made my son Solomon king and have let me live to see it.”
—1 Kings 1:47-48 CEV
But Yahweh did not make Solomon king; David made that decision?
Seersgate Responds to Opinion Giver
January 26, 2022
If you are referring to David’s son Adonijah forming a coup to take over the Kingdom:
When David sinned with Bathsheba, the child that came from the affair was taken by Yahweh (2 Samuel 12). Then David and Bathsheba had another child David named Solomon (2 Samuel 12:24). Yahweh loved the child, and it was already clear that Yahweh had a strong preference for this child Solomon (called by the Lord as Jedidiah).
Adonijah was not given the authority to declare himself king, and he knew it! That is why he chose not to invite certain ones to his celebration (1 Kings 1:9-10). Adonijah made this proclamation behind King David's back, and once the guests knew about it, they scattered. A form of treason was taking place. David confirms his order of who he chose as the next king by immediately making Solomon king and implementing kingdom order by sending Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet; both were told to anoint Solomon as king (1 Kings 1:34). Adonijah appointed his chosen ones who attempted to usurp the throne for his sake.
Adonijah was not following King David’s plan and attempted to take the throne by force.
Also, it should be noted in 2 Samuel 12:7-10 (NLT), David’s sin with Bathsheba cost him more than he would see until dealing with his sons attempting to usurp him more than once.
(7) Then Nathan said to David, “You are that man! The Lord, the God of Israel, says: I anointed you king of Israel and saved you from the power of Saul. (8) I gave you your master’s house and his wives and the kingdoms of Israel and Judah. And if that had not been enough, I would have given you much, much more. (9) Why, then, have you despised the word of the Lord and done this horrible deed? For you have murdered Uriah the Hittite with the sword of the Ammonites and stolen his wife. (10) From this time on, your family will live by the sword because you have despised me by taking Uriah’s wife to be your own.
David did not NEED Abishag. Kings were permitted to have whatever companionship would bring them health, wealth, and stable trading agreements. Solomon, when he ruled, took this plan to extreme lengths.
Journal Notes and Pondering
1 Kings 1
1 Kings 2
Solomon Establishes His Rule
I want to know your opinion first this time. Name Me three major life lessons or Kingdom covenant points given in the reading of 1 Kings 2. Please submit this to Me within 24 hours. Then I will respond to you within a good time frame.
So, Yahweh did promise David that someone from the family would always be king. If David promised not to kill Shimei, why would he ask Solomon to get his revenge for him?
Solomon kept his word when he told Adonijah to keep his head down or else he will kill him. However, I don’t understand the big deal. I don’t understand why asking for Abishag’s hand in marriage would make Solomon so angry.
Solomon took away Abiathar’s position as priest.
Joab was punished for murder without the approval from King David or Yahweh, and that is why he had to die.
Shimei was given a deal and broke that deal and the promise with Yahweh, so Solomon had him killed.
A key thing that I notice here is that at the end of each of these parts, Solomon says each time what the person has done, and how they have gone against the Lord, and then how the Lord will bless him and his father’s kingdom as a result. Maybe this is to note Solomon’s loyalty to Yahweh and his father and what is asked of him.
Response to Yahweh’s questions:
Taking away a position in the kingdom, such as being a priest, can be a deep punishment.
Acting against Yahweh’s plan can result in murder? With Joab.
Breaking a promise/covenant with Yahweh can result in judgment.
January 27, 2022
You did well for your first attempt at understanding Kingdom order. Let’s take a look at what you gave My servant. I noticed how the focus was on punishment. Is that how you view Yahweh of the old covenant: a God who only punishes?
OPINION GIVER RESPONDS:
I am scared of Yahweh sometimes. He has control of my life. I do focus heavily on punishment, repercussions, and consequences. I do not know if that is solely with Yahweh or if with many aspects of my life.
YAHWEH SPEAKS TO OPINION GIVER AGAIN:
Now I will give a reply to a great portion of what you gave:
Adonijah was to come under Kingdom order and submit to how Solomon led the nation. His use of the young woman Abishag was as a pawn, a “piece on the chessboard” way of looking at the situation. The people knew of the service Abishag gave to David, and they would say that Adonijah should be king because he was given the rare beauty that the once king claimed for his own. Abishag became a woman of a great show of power, and to give her over from Solomon’s care into the hands of the brother who once attempted to usurp is to give the people of the nation a sign that Solomon had no wisdom.
Shimei was given a lasting covenant to spare him based on the ways of King David. And then Solomon had a powerful work that required no one to move against him. Shimei was not his plan to put in order. The sin of cursing a Kingdom order led to the judgment for the new king to carry out a death sentence. Shimei promised Solomon, not King David, that he would stay in the city gates, and a promise of death sealed the plan. Shimei did not show submission to the order of the crown and could not have a way to live. If Solomon let him live, the throne would not be firmly established in his grasps. Solomon’s words would mean nothing if he didn’t follow through. Shimei’s curse was against the order of the crown, and David spared him. But the next crown could bring order.
Yahweh removes those who come against the way He sets up order, not solely because they make a mistake.
Journal Notes and Pondering
1 Kings 2
1 Samuel 1-3
Meanwhile, the boy Samuel served the Lord by assisting Eli. Now in those days messages from the Lord were very rare, and visions were quite uncommon.
—1 Samuel 3:1 NLT
Eli was very old, and his two sons were doing wicked deeds to the people.
(22) Now Eli was very old, but he was aware of what his sons were doing to the people of Israel. He knew, for instance, that his sons were seducing the young women who assisted at the entrance of the Tabernacle. (23) Eli said to them, “I have been hearing reports from all the people about the wicked things you are doing. Why do you keep sinning? (24) You must stop, my sons! The reports I hear among the Lord’s people are not good. (25) If someone sins against another person, God can mediate for the guilty party. But if someone sins against the Lord, who can intercede?” But Eli’s sons wouldn’t listen to their father, for the Lord was already planning to put them to death.
—1 Samuel 2:22-25 NLT
Eli and his sons were in the position to serve as priests to the Lord. Eli heard about the sins his sons were performing yet he did not remove them from their priestly duties. During this time, Samuel, though only a boy, served the Lord (ref. 1 Samuel 2:18). His mother Hannah gave Samuel back to the Lord because she received Samuel due to a vow she made.
(9) Once after a sacrificial meal at Shiloh, Hannah got up and went to pray. Eli the priest was sitting at his customary place beside the entrance of the Tabernacle. (10) Hannah was in deep anguish, crying bitterly as she prayed to the Lord. (11) And she made this vow: “O Lord of Heaven’s Armies, if you will look upon my sorrow and answer my prayer and give me a son, then I will give him back to you. He will be yours for his entire lifetime, and as a sign that he has been dedicated to the Lord, his hair will never be cut.”
—1 Samuel 1:9-11 NLT
Yahweh granted Hannah’s request for a son (ref. 1 Samuel 1:27). Hannah brought Samuel to stay with Eli. And Samuel belonged to the Lord his whole life. Samuel was young, but his natural age did not determine how well he heard Yahweh’s voice.
Some key points to note in this introduction:
Samuel grew taller and in favor with the Lord and the people (ref. 1 Samuel 2:26). Samuel did not pretend the people were not important. He did not mistreat them or perform ill ways with them.
Samuel grew up in the presence of the Lord (ref. 1 Samuel 2:21). Even though Eli and his sons were not walking in the fulness of the priestly duties, Samuel stood in covenant with Yahweh and served Him well.
People think that Yahweh will ignore sinful actions against Him. But who can intercede on our behalf when we sin against the Lord (ref. 1 Samuel 2:25)? It’s always best to heed warnings when there may be a possible breach in covenant with Yahweh.
Notice that Yahweh honors vows (ref. 1 Samuel 1:11). Here is what we must be aware of: Give no vow to Yahweh if there is no true intention of going through with the will. We expect Yahweh to back up what He says but tend to abandon the vow when it’s convenient. Yahweh isn’t making vows to punish. He makes covenants to bring His will into the natural way ultimately.
Yahweh was angry concerning their sinful ways. One day, He gave a death sentence through a man of God. This curse is on the family, not only on Hophni and Phinehas, the two sons of Eli.
(27) One day a man of God came to Eli and gave him this message from the Lord: “I revealed Myself to your ancestors when they were Pharaoh’s slaves in Egypt. (28) I chose your ancestor Aaron from among all the tribes of Israel to be My priest, to offer sacrifices on My altar, to burn incense, and to wear the priestly vest as he served Me. And I assigned the sacrificial offerings to you priests. (29) So why do you scorn My sacrifices and offerings? Why do you give your sons more honor than you give Me—for you and they have become fat from the best offerings of My people Israel! (30) “Therefore, the Lord, the God of Israel, says: I promised that your branch of the tribe of Levi would always be My priests. But I will honor those who honor Me, and I will despise those who think lightly of Me. (31) The time is coming when I will put an end to your family, so it will no longer serve as My priests. All the members of your family will die before their time. None will reach old age. (32) You will watch with envy as I pour out prosperity on the people of Israel. But no members of your family will ever live out their days. (33) The few not cut off from serving at My altar will survive, but only so their eyes can go blind and their hearts break, and their children will die a violent death. (34) And to prove that what I have said will come true, I will cause your two sons, Hophni and Phinehas, to die on the same day! (35) “Then I will raise up a faithful priest who will serve Me and do what I desire. I will establish his family, and they will be priests to My anointed kings forever. (36) Then all of your surviving family will bow before him, begging for money and food. ‘Please,’ they will say, ‘give us jobs among the priests so we will have enough to eat.’”
—1 Samuel 2:27-36 NLT
When Yahweh spoke out to His prophets, He was clear in His communication. When a prophet of old heard the voice of Yahweh, there wasn’t a feeling or a guess. Tell me, do you have the courage to tell others that they will come under a curse, per Yahweh? If Yahweh spoke clearly like a family member, would there be a question in your soul concerning the need to validate serving Him?
“But Yahweh does not speak as if He sits next to you.” A great majority would say this. And I would agree.
The biggest hurdle is knowing there really is a real God who is letting us govern. Now, how we serve Him in the Church era will not be given a turned face to sin even when grace covers. The God of the Old Testament comes across as the bad God, while the God of the New Testament comes across as a loving God who accepts all. Both parts—the Old and the New Testaments give the will of Yahweh and reflect Him. How much proof of Yahweh being real should we look for before serving Yahweh as if He records us daily?
What is a plan of service; how do we honor Yahweh in everyday living?
Opinion Giver Answers
What is a plan of service; how do we honor Yahweh in everyday living?
My response: I think we can honor Yahweh in everyday living in two different ways. We can Honor Yahweh through direct obedience. For example, if Yahweh has asked me to do something in that moment (such as read chapters or work on a project) I can honor Him by doing what He has asked of me.
Another way we can honor Yahweh in day-to-day life is the way we carry and present ourselves. This is not to say honoring Yahweh is about image, but that honoring Yahweh can be about WHO we are and how we treat other people. We honor Yahweh when we are forgiving, when we are honest, and when we are graceful and compassionate. We honor Yahweh when we love our Neighbor. We honor Yahweh when we let His glory show through us.
Yahweh’s Closing Statement
What stood out for Me was hearing you speak on “direct obedience.” Would revival come if eighty percent of actual Christians gave My Word a right of way?
What if eighty percent out of one hundred percent of real Christians made Me and what I say a priority? Would I be able to pour out a powerful surging on the Earth? Yes, I could pour out real Kingdom power this day, but are the people ready to live for Me? Will My Word have priority, a “right of way” approach, and usher in a cultivated environment that can house an actual power surging just as what the Ark of God carried? With an eighty percent sold-out Christian gathering, the power of God would come and bring a great revival. Why? Because I would have honor in the eyes of the people, and how I come near them with such a holy nature, the crowd would not automatedly be consumed. What am I looking for in all? Clean hands and a pure heart.
Journal Notes and Pondering
1 Samuel 1-3 (Overview)